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Tickhill Council Last Updated: Nov 16th, 2004 - 23:07:50


Minutes
By Clerk
Nov 16, 2004, 22:44

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Minutes of a Meeting of Tickhill Town Council held at The Pavilion, Tithes Lane, Tickhill on Tuesday October 26th 2004

Present: Chair: Councillor R Hill, Councillors Mesdames CEM Chambers, AE Spencer,

Messrs EV Baldwin, N Cannings, FW Higgins, D Hoyle and P Rigley.

Borough Councillor Mrs P Bartlett

Borough Councillor’s Report

Mrs Bartlett had only Planning matters to report saying that (1) following the site visit to Tickhill Garage the Planning Committee had given conditional permission for the development to proceed (2) the Application for development of land adjacent to 24 Pinfold lane had been refused and (3) a site visit was proposed in connection with the proposed development at "The Dorchie" on Dadsley Road.

Police report

PC Coulson had sent apologies for his absence saying that he had no specific matters to report. The low level of reported crime continues.

Public Meeting

There were no members of the public present.

1. Apologies

Apologies received from Councillor S Millard.

2. Declarations of Interest

Mrs Chambers declared an interest in the Bus Stop improvements proposals -

discussed under Agenda Item "Car Park" - because of her friendship with one of the

persons whose property was adjacent to one of the suggested bus stops.

There were no other Declarations of Interest

3. Register of Interests

There were no changes to the Register of Interests.

4. Minutes

The previously distributed Minutes of the Meeting of 28th September 2004 were

agreed on the proposal of Cllr. Baldwin seconded by Cllr. Hoyle after adding the

Advisory Committee to those Committees on which Mrs Spencer is to serve and

noting the deletion of the Labour Party (who have not been represented for some

considerable time) from the list of participating organisations on the Advisory

Committee.

5. Matters Arising

All matters are covered under their respective Agenda items.

6. Finance

(a) The Minutes of the Finance Committee Meeting held on 19th October

incorporating the Financial Statement and reconciliation as at 30th September had

previously been circulated and were accepted.

2.

(b) Accounts for payment

Please see appendix to these Minutes.

(c) Audited Accounts for the year ended 31st March 2004.

The Annual Return incorporating the Auditor’s Comments was considered by

the Council, accepted and approved and the comments made by the Finance

Committee noted. All the matters raised by the Auditors have been or are being

dealt with and will be minuted when complete.

On the proposal of Cllr. Hill seconded by Cllr. Hoyle it was formally agreed that

Minutes relating to Accounts for Payment, Planning and Correspondence will

continue to appear as an Appendix to the main body of minutes (with suitable

cross references) whilst the Minutes of each Meeting will start numbering at 1.

The comments of the Internal Auditor were also noted and considered but only

those relating to Insurance Values, Inventory and Risk Assessment are to be

taken forward.

7. Reports from Committees/Representatives

(a) Pavilion and Sports Management

Remedial and other work at the new children’s play is now being addressed but

weather conditions and school holidays are delaying completion. The matter of

compensation for lost football income is still being pursued.

(b) Planning

(1) The Minutes of the meetings on the 28th September and 19th October had

previously been circulated and were accepted.

(2) Please see appendix for Applications considered at this Meeting.

(c) Finningley Airport Consultative Group

Mr Higgins attended a meeting last month but the recently distributed newsletter

and leaflet detailed all the information available. It seems that this Group will

now be disbanded and only some local parishes are likely to be represented on

the new statutory Airport Consultation Group.

(d) South Yorkshire Local Councils Association

The Meeting which should have been held in Barnsley earlier this month did not

take place.

8. Car Park

Minutes of the meeting with DMBC officials held on the 6th October had been

distributed together with the map promised by DMBC showing existing parking

regulations. Coincidentally we have been approached by South Yorkshire Passenger

Transport Executive about proposed "bus stop improvements". It is felt that these

two associated subjects should be discussed in detail at a further meeting of the Car

Park committee to be held on 10th November before formulating a considered

response to both DMBC and SYPTE.

DMBC Education Department have advised us that because the school has plans for

the land alongside St. Mary’s Road it is not available for lease.

9. Youth Services

The number of attendees at the Youth Club is building up after a slow start.

3.

10. Environment

Still no response from DMBC about the wildlife site at High Common Lane and

the Planning Department will be chased again.

The Mill Dam Improvement Group has submitted a final report upon completion of its

project and it is appropriate that a maintenance programme for the Mill Field is agreed

following a site visit.

11. Traffic

DMBC were not prepared to talk about general traffic problems when attending the

"Car Park" meeting earlier this month. Meanwhile Cllrs. Rigley and Hill expressed

concern from personal experiences and those of other road users and pedestrians

about the dangers created by drivers of vehicles proceeding on the wrong side of the

road - particularly along Sunderland Street and at Tickhill Spital. It was agreed that a

letter be sent to DMBC Highways about this matter and seeking some action.

It was also suggested that a letter be sent to DMBC recommending that the approach

to the "roundabout at Woodfield Plantation" be made into two lanes with the right

hand lane reserved for right-turners in order to speed the traffic flow through the

junction.

12. Police

No action required.

13. Town Plan

The Minutes of the latest meeting have been received and were accepted.

14. Correspondence

Please see appendix to these Minutes

15. Date of Next Meeting

Monthly Meeting Tuesday 23rd November 2004 at The Pavilion Tithes Lane,

Tickhill at 7.00pm.

It was agreed that the December Meeting would be held on 14th December followed

by the usual reception and presentation of the trophy to the winner of the Best

Dressed Christmas Window "competition".

Appendix to Minutes of Meeting of Tickhill Town Council held on 26th October 2004

The following Accounts were approved for payment under the Council’s General Powers on the proposal of

Cllr. Higgins seconded by Cllr. Baldwin

Minute 6(b)

£ 536.82 A Jillott - Sep. salary

£ 139.45 A Jillott Expenses (Mileage £26.97, Telephone £107.99, Stnry.£4.49)

£ 31.85 H A Jillott - Secretarial expenses - September

£ 65.00 Juicy Fruits - toilet attendant

£ 45.00 Bramley Agricultural Contractors - Dyke clearing

£ 180.00 Tickhill United Charities - Mill Field rent.

£ 121.47 Npower Direct Ltd - pavilion gas supply

£ 700.00 Tickhill Town Council Wages Account

£ 22.40 Post office - stamps

£ 278.42 Rosedale Lighting Ltd - Christmas Tree light bulbs

£ 80.00 E Chase (Littleworth Nurseries) - wallflowers

Confirmation of wages paid

4.10.04 £594.34, 18.10.04 £432.72

Minute 7 (b)

PLANNING

04/6925/P/FUL

Formation of new vehicular access to classified road (A631)

Dorman Cottage, Bawtry Road, Tickhill

J Rice

Object. We would not wish to see the tree removed without good reason and without a suitable proposal for replacement.

04/6942/P/FUL

Erection of two storey pitched roof garage/residential extension to side of semi-detached house following

demolition of existing detached garage & shed

3 King Edward Road, Tickhill

S Ward

No objections or observations

04/6960/P/FUL

Erection of single storey pitched roof extensions to side & rear, ground floor conservatory extension to rear and new pitched roof to replace existing flat roof to front of detached bungalow

8 The Oval, Tickhill

Mr & Mrs Turner

No objections or observations

04/5604

Copy of notice of appeal against DMBC decision (7.9.04) to refuse permission for demolition of existing single storey building and boundary wall at 7-9 Castlegate, Tickhill by Earlesmere Profiles Ltd.

The Council has already decided to make no further comments.

Noted

2.

Minute 14

CORRESPONDENCE

DMBC - Schools and Nursery provision posters - displayed*

DMBC - Parish Councils J.C.C. - change of meeting date to 3rd November (from 16th Nov.)*

DMBC - Doncaster Landscape Conservation Grant Scheme (Countryside Group advised)*

DMBC re Tree Obstruction (St Mary’s Crescent) & gulley cleaning in Pavilion car park & Drains in Market Place*

DMBC - Community Forum Review questionnaire for completion -completed by a number of individuals.

DIAL - request for financial assistance in connection with move of premises - no action.

YRCC - Annual Report 2003/4 and Notice of AGM 30.10.04*

Mill Dam Improvement Group Minutes 14.09.04 + Notice of meeting 12.10.04*

Sir Jack Whittaker re Bawtry Forest public access* - and to Advisory Committee members

S. Yorks Police - Question Time - Mansion House 15th October9.30am*

DC Brown re disabled parking - responded*.

YLCA re Standards Board for England visits to local meetings (Dalton Parish Hall, Dalton, Rotherham 9th Nov.)*

Yorks & Humber Training Partnership re Quality Councils (+ booklet)*

SYPTE re Bus Service changes - October (nothing affecting Tickhill) and FirstDay/AllDay details*

Tickhill Mill Dam Improvement Group - Final Report and thanks for Council support* - and acknowledged..

DMBC - Review of parish Councils - consultation (copies of letter and questionnaire to each Cllr. in readiness for discussion as an Agenda item at the November Council Meeting) - to November Agenda..

DMBC - Education - Schools’ forward plans for use of ground preclude it being leased for Car Park*.

CPRE - Countryside Voice Magazine - Autumn 2004* - and to Advisory Committee

DMBC - confirm Chair (Mrs Margaret Ward) to judge shop window competition on 9th December*

DMBC - Notice of Public Rights of Way Forum Meeting 18th November + Agenda*

DMBC - Overview & Scrutiny Panel - meeting dates* - and circulated..

DMBC - Customer Care Review*

Circulated.

DMBC Minutes - 6th Sept - 4th October

DMBC - Standards (Parish Council) Sub Committee Agenda for 7.10.04 and Minutes 29.07.04

DMBC - Guidance on Good relations between Members and Officers

DMBC- Draft protocol and guidance regarding use of Town/Parish Council resources

DMBC -Copy of full response received about Children’s Play Area/Recreation ground

DIS 590

* Noted

Minutes of a Meeting of the Advisory Committee of Tickhill Town Council held at The Pavilion, Tithes Lane, Tickhill on Tuesday November 2nd 2004

Present: Chair: N Cannings, Mesdames CEM Chambers, A Hill, E Howdle, M Marrison,

Messrs E V Baldwin, B Elderkin, R Hill, J Hoare, R Green, D Hoyle, S Millard,

P Mottram, B Rounthwaite, P Thomas, P Welch, M Whitta

The Chair welcomed Mr Green as the new representative of the Horticultural Society, Mr Welch of the Tickhill and District Historical Society and Mr Elderkin of Tickhill Lawn Tennis Club.

Before the start of the meeting Ms Abby Wilson, the PR, Marketing and Education officer of the Community West Recycling Partnership gave a presentation about the proposed new kerbside recycling service which is shortly to be introduced in Tickhill and other towns/villages in the DMBC "West" area. In fact, due to logistic problems, the start of the service has had to be postponed until early in 2005 (January -February).

Ms Wilson answered many questions about the service and how it would impact on elderly and vulnerable people, those in not easily identifiable and accessible houses and also the environment, indicating that similar schemes already introduced in other parts of the Borough were proving successful. A general willingness to co-operate was evident and, although it was felt almost certain there will be teething problems at the introductory stage of this weekly service, Ms Wilson is sure they will quickly be overcome. Full details of the service will be provided when the receptacles are distributed shortly before the service starts.

Ms Wilson was thanked for her attendance, the information given and her co-operation in answering the many questions raised..

1. Apologies

Received from Mr D Broookfield

2. Minutes

The Minutes of the Meeting held on 7th September 2004 and previously distributed

were unanimously agreed.

3. Matters Arising

Mrs Chambers reported that attendance at the Youth Club had been very disappointing

despite the efforts of the Youth Workers and their earlier Outreach work. Ms Martin

had indicated that if the response did not improve the service would be withdrawn

although the Outreach work would continue.

The road sign at Alderson Drive has been reinstated but that at The Paddock has not.

Because of the death of the PCC Secretary the Town Council are unlikely to receive an

early formal response to their queries about the Parish Room.

Mrs Hill asked if matters arising from the previous Meeting could be itemised (as far as

possible) on future Agendas under this heading.

 

 

2.

4. Community First/Community Forum

No representative was present but it was reported that the Community Wardens had

been withdrawn from full time attendance at Tickhill. Subsequent enquiries revealed

that due to the absence on sick leave of Mr Powell and a similar situation at Cantley

our remaining Warden, Mrs Beedham, together with the remaining Cantley Warden

is temporarily covering both areas. A service is still being provided in Tickhill but not

on a full time basis until the return of Mr Powell. Meanwhile the Warden Service can

be requested when needed by telephoning Community First or Mrs Beedham on

07795128026. Mr Hoare indicated that they had been invited to attend the TRA

Open Meeting on the 12th of this month.

5. Road Safety/Traffic/Highways

The Clerk advised that the Town Council Car Park Committee had met with DMBC

Highways officials and had preliminary discussions about all matters relating to the Car

Park and parking in the town. The Committee are to meet again next week to

deliberate further whilst also taking into consideration proposals by South Yorkshire

Passenger Transport Executive for changes to bus stops and their facilities in Tickhill.

Meanwhile DMBC Education Dept. have indicated that St. Mary’s School have plans

to develop their grounds adjacent to St. Mary’s Road which preclude the land being

used for additional public car parking - as suggested by a number of parties.

Copies of the new Taxibus Timetable were distributed and members advised about

the withdrawal of the unused evening service to the Dome.

Mr Thomas advised that the road sign at Greystone Lane has been knocked over and

needs repairing.

6. Environment

Mrs Hill asked that the Council again take up with either or both DMBC and Severn

Trent Water the water problem on Lindrick Lane which has not been fully addressed -

the French Drain installed by DMBC only providing modest relief. With the onset of

winter the previously experienced freezing of overflowing water is, once again, likely

to pose severe problems to residents and motorists.

The state of the Recreation Ground appears to be gradually improving as DMBC

continue their efforts to remedy the flooding problem.- although it is accepted that

there has always been a minor problem in the area presently most affected.

The painting of the railings at the Children’s Play Area has commenced and the gate

installed at the gap in the fence to the kick-about area. DMBC advise that a tarmac

path to the area is to be installed in due course.

The matter of access to Tickhill Castle was again raised and Mr Mottram said he

would speak again with the Duchy’s Agents about this matter - particularly as it

is understood that public money is being used to finance the recent improvements.

The old, formerly gas-lit, lamps are in fact situated on Lindrick.

The Clerk advised that enquiries were being made of certain members about the

ownership of land either side of parts of some of the lanes involved in the Lane

Claiming Exercise and also said that he now had a full list of the lanes involved.

Details of the new arrangements for the opening up of Bawtry Forest, Sawnay Hill and

Swinnow Woods to the public were distributed.

3.

7. Planning

In view of the large number of Planning Applications now being regularly received,

members views had been sought about the practicalities of considering them at

Advisory Committee meetings. Even though these meetings usually follow shortly after

the monthly Council Meeting there could occasionally be many plans awaiting

consideration by the Town Council. Mr Hoare suggested and it was agreed that the

best method would be to make the plans available from 7.00pm on the night of the

meeting thereby enabling members to see them and make comments to the Planning

Committee where appropriate.

The suggestion that DMBC be requested for copies of all amendments to plans in

order that comment might be made was considered by the Town Council and

considered unworkable. Most of the amendments are agreed on site with

Planning/Building Control Officers (to whom the power has been delegated) as work

progresses. Where the Council does received amended plans for consideration these

are invariably in response to the Planning Officer’s comments before Planning

Permission is granted.

8. Members items

Mr Elderkin’s request for additional fencing of the all weather area was referred to the

Town Council’s Pavilion and Sports Management Committee.

Mr Hoare said that all Councillors as well as Community First and the Police had been

invited to the Tickhill Resident’s Association Open Forum to be held on Friday 12th

November at The Pavilion and that the Practice Manager at the Doctor’s Surgery had

been invited and would attend their subsequent meeting scheduled for Friday 10th

December, again at The Pavilion.

9. Date of next meeting

Tuesday 4th January 2005 at 7.30pm at The Pavilion, Tithes Lane, Tickhill (any plans

for consideration will be available from 7.00pm)

Minutes of a meeting of the Planning Committee of Tickhill Town Council held at The Pavilion, Tithes lane, Tickhill on Wednesday 10th November 2004

Present: Cllrs. Messrs R Hill (Chair), E V Baldwin, N Cannings, F W Higgins,

D Hoyle, S Millard, Mrs A Spencer

1. Apologies

Apologies received from Cllr Rigley.

2. Declarations of Interest

There were no declarations of interest.

3. Applications

04/7174/P/FUL and LBC

Listed Building Consent and Planning consent for

Erection of ground floor conservatory extension and porch, both to rear of detached

house

Mill Farm, Lindrick, Tickhill

Mr & Mrs Rogers

No objections or observations

04/7152/P/FUL

Erection of ground floor conservatory extension to rear of detached house

92, Doncaster Road, Tickhill

J Hair

No objections or observations

04/7190/P/OTL

Outline Application for erection of detached dwelling on appx. 0.07Ha land including

details of siting, layout and means of access.

Land to rear of Marybridge, 1 Worksop Road, Tickhill.

Mr & Mrs Wraith

No objections or observations

04/7306/P/FUL

Erection of single storey pitched roof extension to rear and formation of new pitched

roof to replace existing flat roof of garage in connection with conversion of garage to

utility room of detached house

1 Tickhill Grange Cottages, High Common Lane, Tickhill

Mr & Mrs Clayton

No objections or observations

04/7313/P/FUL

Change of use of existing agricultural building to living accommodation

Dadsley Wells Farm, Dadsley Road, Tickhill

Ms J Bradley

No objections. The proposed development would be a distinct improvement on the

present dilapidated buildings.

 

2.

Appeal re 7-9 Castlegate - Earlesmere properties

Notice of amendment to Appeal details

Appeal (to both refusals) is to be held by informal hearing scheduled for 19th April 2005.

After (subsequent) clarification of position with DMBC about commenting on the second application which was not received by Tickhill Town Council for comment, the Council formally confirmed their objection to the second proposal to the Planning Inspectorate.

 

4, Wong Lane, Tickhill - alleged breach of Planning Control

DMBC advise that investigations are still ongoing.

Food sales at Torne Valley retail outlet.

It was agreed that the enforcement action be sought of DMBC regarding the sale of hot food/sandwiches etc. at the Torne Valley premises on Bawtry Road.

Minutes of a Meeting of the Car Park Committee and Councillors of Tickhill Town Council held on 10th November 2004 at The Pavilion, Tithes Lane, Tickhill

Present: Cllrs. R Hill (Chair), Mesdames CEM Chambers and AE Spencer

Messrs E V Baldwin, N Cannings, S Millard, F W Higgins, D Hoyle and

P Rigley

1. Apologies and Declarations of Interest:

All Councillors were present and there were no declarations of Interest.

2. Minutes

The Minutes of the meeting held on 6th October had previously been distributed

and had been accepted at the subsequent Council meeting.

3. Matters arising

DMBC Education Department had advised that St. Mary’s School had plans to

develop their land adjacent to St. Mary’s Road and it was unavailable for lease or

sale for use as an additional car park - such use having been suggested by a number

of townspeople. Those who had written to the Council about this had been advised.

4. Off-Street Car Parking in Tickhill

With no apparent additional land for parking a discussion ensued about improving

the existing facilities. Whilst some minor repairs are necessary to the asphalt

surfacing some additional benefit could arise from a formal parking arrangement on

the gravelled area (acknowledging that this is already regularly used in a haphazard

fashion). Two extra spaces could also be provided by removal of the paper and

bottle banks. It was therefore agreed that quotations be sought for asphalting the

gravelled area.

It was also agreed that no further action would be taken - at least for the time being

- to repair or re-instate the barrier.

As a separate issue the recent unauthorised parking of a skip on the car park has

caused problems. The owners of properties with rights of access across the car

park have adequate space on their property for such purposes and have been so

advised.

5. On-Street Car parking in Tickhill

Copies of the recent map provided by DMBC clearly showing the existing on-street

parking regulations had been distributed and was discussed. The proposed removal

of the bus stop outside the Parish Room and other suggested bus stop arrangements

were also taken into consideration. It was accepted that unless regulations are

enforced there is unlikely to be much change in motorists attitudes to parking no

matter what new rules are introduced. However responsibility for enforcement will

transfer to the Local Authority next year and it is hoped that this will bring some

benefit. As a practical measure it was therefore decided to request DMBC to

introduce a clearly marked standard 2 hours maximum stay on all the regulated

parking areas and review with us the present "no parking/waiting" road markings to

make the best use of the available space.

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6. Traffic flow at the Buttercross and associated parking

The proposed re-siting of the existing (Eastbound) bus stop should alleviate some

of the problems experienced in this area and Cllr. Higgins suggested a new road

layout which he felt would assist Westbound traffic whilst providing a suitable site

for a bus shelter. This would require a co-ordinated scheme involving DMBC

Highways and SYPTE and it will be proposed to them. There was no support for a

suggestion that a roundabout be created around the Buttercross.

7. Date of next Meeting

This will be arranged when we receive a response to our proposals from DMBC.


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